I would not post this email exchange were it not for the fact that this whole 'limited hangout' issue does my head in and it is a genuinely important issue.
I have great admiration for Henry Makow. I have learnt a very great deal from him and share his world view. Indeed I learned it from him and accepted it. We are a race possessed. The world is in the grip of a Satanic cult.
However, it has always been a puzzle to me that Henry believes in 'The Holocaust'. Some of his family suffered (and more? I don't know) through it.
But this is today a life-and-death issue for the rest of us.
We live in its poisonous shadow.
The truth about the Holocaust cannot be regarded as a matter of little importance. Facts must be faced. Issues dealt with openly.
Lies are destroying us every day of our lives.
I believe that the invention of the human gas chambers for the extermination of a race is the greatest and most damaging lie.
Unless someone can demonstrate otherwise with some new evidence. Mere words and more Holocaust accusations will not do. We have heard too many lies already.
About everything.
I cannot accuse Henry Makow of dishonesty. This I could not believe. There is an aching for truth in so much of his writing.
But either he is blind or I am.
Henry published this article (9-11 Truth is Limited Hangout --"September Clues") on his site today. I sent him the following letter (below) and here is how the 'conversation' continued:
Hi Henry,
The term "limited hangout" is usually applied to people who acknowledge aspects of or the essential elements of a crime but deny sufficient (more explosive) details thrown up as evidence in order to protect the particular criminals involved in the crime. This fellow's argument does not fit the description in my view.
Shack's film is interesting but no more than that. With mainstream 9/11 Truth there is no important contradiction presented here. Either way, via the (let's call it) Jones theory or the Shack theory,9/11 could not have been carried out by Muslim terrorists.
Via both narratives 9/11 was an 'inside job'. Accusing Jones and the rest of 'limited hangout' on this issueseems to me to be pure mischief-making. It makes me suspect the accusers' motives. This looks like an exercise to further divide an already divided opposition.
Personally I don't care how CIA/Mossad/Corporate-Techie-
What matters is that everybody understands that our own governments (or the forces that own and control them ) are Satanic liars who will happily slaughter their own citizens in order to advance an agenda.
That is all people really need to know.
The much more troubling 'limited hangout' within 9/11 Truth and other opposition movements is the failure of some commentators to honestly confront and expose the Jewish aspects of these issue. This is certainly true of the UK 9/11 Truth movement. Here 9/11 Truth leaders permit us to expose every and any element of the crime excepting who actually did it.
This particular 'limited hangout' also (and always) encompasses a failure and demands disengagement with the greatest and most damaging lie of all.....
..........the lie that has empowered our globalist crime syndicate.
..........the lie that has fuelled the demise of western societies..........
..........the lie that has allowed these people to implant a guilt complex in the white man and sucker the Jewish people into almost total loyalty to their Satanic cause.........
............and that lie is the lie that there ever existed human gas-chambers for the purpose of industrially exterminating an entire race.
THERE NEVER WERE SUCH HUMAN GAS CHAMBERS.
EVER.
NOT ONE.
Sincerely,
Kevin Boyle
Kevin
How do you manage to make this story about gas chambers? The Nazis gassed 75,000 of their own (mentally challenged) people in gas chambers. Holocaust deniers make Jews out to be pampered in WW2 when everyone else was dying.
I'll post this if you resend and stick to topic.
henry
How do you manage to make this story about gas chambers? The Nazis gassed 75,000 of their own (mentally challenged) people in gas chambers. Holocaust deniers make Jews out to be pampered in WW2 when everyone else was dying.
I'll post this if you resend and stick to topic.
henry
Henry,
Pampered? No one saying that Henry, and you know it.
You are calling 'deniers' racists by saying this, when the 'deniers' that I have personally have met are merely speaking what they see as truth, sometimes at great personal cost.
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What fair minded people want to see is the evidence that there was a single human gas chamber in the camps. The confessions of Hoess and Stangl are completely discredited. The physical evidence (that I have seen), re Auschwitz (Holocaust central) and Treblinka, is completely against the existence of such industrialised units of murder.
I would be quite prepared to believe in this horror if someone can present credible evidence that supports it. The debunking of Leuchter, Rudolf and Mattogno that I have read is laughable, much like the debunking of the controlled demolition theories relating to 9/11....just desperate....and nonsense with it.
It is the pure obscenity of this notion that has everyone helpless before the charge. I've read Hilberg and Sereny on Stangl and (what's-his-name?) Weiner at the Nurenburg trial and find them all entirely lacking in credibility.
There was horrible persecution of innocent Jews and mass slaughters on the Eastern Front. We know this now.
However, it is the gas chambers story that renders Jewish suffering unique.
Remove that element and the 'special' thing (and all the Holocaust museums and all the reparations and all the rest) would lack justification. Most who died in the camps starved (as in the Irish Famine, but on a smaller scale) or died of Typhus.
The gas-chambers demand a humble and shamed silence on our parts. Because of this we are not even able to defend ourselves against the gangsters who have committed the crimes (and imposed all the foul agendas) against us.......because it is impossible to address these issues without mentioning the fact that these conspirators against humanity are, overwhelmingly, Jews.
Ignoring this issue is LIMITED HANGOUT in capital letters.
The evidence that establishes their existence, Henry.
That's all I want to see.
KB
Kevin
The Nazis rounded up Jews. What do you think they did with the children, sick, elderly and those who couldn't work. Welfare?
Why would they round these up?
henry
The Nazis rounded up Jews. What do you think they did with the children, sick, elderly and those who couldn't work. Welfare?
Why would they round these up?
Henry,
To deport them (that was official German policy) or send them to work camps as an interim measure. There were many women and children in the camps. All this is evil enough, one must freely admit.
The only aspect of the Holocaust I want to argue about is the 'human gas chambers'. This is the psycho-spiritual source of so much of the horrors against which you rail on a daily basis. It is also at the root of our puzzling inability to even confront the issues.
We are disabled by the spell that has been cast by this story. If the story is a lie....and all the hard evidence I have seen says it is, then it is the Sabbatean-Frankists greatest feat of Black Magic......
......and, before God, it is more harmful (for many reasons) to the credulous Jews who believe it than it is to the rest of us who believe it. I can, at least, try to stand with Christ.
However, a great number of the tribe have been convinced into throwing their lot in whole-heartedly with the Satanists (that oppress us all, Jew and gentile alike).
KB
............End of Conversation, it appears.....but it remains that THE TRUTH ABOUT 'THE HOLOCAUST' REALLY MATTERS.
THE TABOO AGAINST DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE MUST BE BROKEN.
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I had a similar exchange with Mr. Makow. To the point of his resorting to name-calling. He is a yiddish gate-keeper with an inflated sense of self-importance. Re-examine his articles and I think you will find that he almost always goes to the precipice of important issues only to retreat.
ReplyDeleteGreat delivery. Sound arguments. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDeletemy page: mcallen
Interesting exchange, Kev.
ReplyDeleteAny chance Makow knows about what happened to his fellow Jew David Cole?
"...On January 22, 1992, revisionist activist David Cole was attacked by JDL thugs at a meeting held at the University of California at Los Angeles. Before the meeting began, JDL leader Rubin first tried to push the youthful Cole down a flight of stairs. JDL hoodlums also harassed and pushed around meeting organizer Robert Morrissey. After the meeting commenced, JDL punks tried to shout down the speakers, and then threw food at Cole. Finally, a JDL thug assaulted Cole -- who is Jewish -- hitting him in the face and bloodying his nose...
"The tumult was recorded on videotape by a camera crew of the CBS television news program "48 Hours," as well as by news crews of two local Los Angeles television stations. Neither of the two local stations mentioned a word of the incident in their nightly news broadcasts. Similarly, CBS officials decided not to air even a second of this outburst, not even in a segment about Holocaust revisionism that was part of the CBS television network's hour-long magazine-format program "48 Hours" broadcast of February 26, 1992. Network officials apparently decided that scenes of Zionist hoodlums beating a young Jewish revisionist would not "fit" with the image of revisionism that CBS wanted to project to its many viewers."
More about "The Zionist Terror Network" for anyone who has not read this long article at the IHR site:
http://ihr.org/books/ztn.html
Also note the "courage" of the American networks who kept it all a nice big secret.
Hi Kev,
ReplyDeleteReading this, it struck me that Henry just wasn't up for debating the issue. Personally, I don't have all the answers however I really object to the idea that ANY subject can be taken off the table (via legislation in many European countries) and simply not be discussed. All right thinking people with God given intelligence should have alarm bells going off in their heads at this situation.
I am enclosing some of my favourite quotes as I feel they are apt for the discussion at hand.
Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
“A legal council which exercises injustices is more dangerous and worse than a gang of thieves; one can protect oneself against those, but nobody can protect himself against rogues who use the robes of justice to carry out their vicious passions; they are worse than the biggest scoundrels in the world and deserve double punishment.” - Frederick the Great, King of Prussia
"If everyone waits until the other man makes a start, the messengers of avenging Nemesis will come steadily closer; then even the last victim will have been cast senselessly into the maw of the insatiable demon. Therefore every individual, conscious of his responsibility as a member of Christian and Western civilization, must defend himself as best he can at this late hour, he must work against the scourges of mankind, against fascism and any similar system of totalitarianism." - The White Rose Group - Germany WWII
“In times of change learners inherit the earth; while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." - Eric Hoffer
"Skepticism and curiosity, doubting one’s senses and theories and looking deeper in search for the truth, is therefore what brought us down from the trees and out of the caves. They are what made us what we are and what sets us apart from animals. Hence the rights to doubt and to search for the truth are not negotiable. It is therefore perfidious when the State pits freedom of science against human dignity, when in fact they are inseparable. We all are entitled by nature to seek the truth and announce what we think we have found. We do not need any official permission for this." - Gemar Rudolf
We as a species need the truth if we are to survive, period. This is and can never be negotiable.
Regards
Jim
Thanks. Henry is never up for discussing this. I've tried before with him. It worries me that a guy who analyses so many issues like a knife refuses to bring any sensible attention to such a vital issue.
DeleteSorry to post comments so late. I have no access to a computer until late every evening.
Without the Nazis the state of Israel would not have come into existence in 1948. The Transfer Agreement, Edwin Black wrote a book about it, provided the future state of Israel with the most sophisticated Jews in the world-the German Jews- and an industrial infrastructure comprised of the best equipment in the world at the time-German. You cannot create a state without a population.
ReplyDeleteSure the old and the sick went off to the camps. They were not wanted in the coming state of Israel, they would have been a burden.
After 30 years of researching the holocaust I thought I had an understanding, then last year I read Dietrich Bronder's Before Hitler Came. Turns out most of the top Nazis were of Jewish descent. Damn.
Having only read what you've presented here, Mr. Boyle, I'd say Mr. Makow is simply blind on this issue -- willfully so, to all appearances. You've kindly and clearly said your peace; move on. Anyone with any sense would begin to question the official narrative simply by considering what the term "holocaust" actually means. Interestingly, one has to go to page three of the Google results to even find the definition! What was offered? By whom? To what purpose? Can a man or group of men offer something they do not own or control? The Money Master Mafia chose the term for a reason, just as they did the deed for a reason. As an aside, note how Mr. Makow uses the term "mentally challenged." Uh, Henry, that is PC lingo and, while admittedly a small thing, might make some believe that it is rather reasonable to question the truly independent nature of your thought and your overall sincerity. Far more telling, IMO, is the sweeping and utterly fatuous comment about "deniers" presenting images of pampered Judaics. It is a good indicator of Mr. Makow's being willfully and completely disingenuous in this matter. Pax tecum, Mr. Boyle.
ReplyDeleteThank you Eamon. Well put.
ReplyDeleteKB
Excellent work, Kevin! The official story is as transparently false as 9/11, JKF, 7/7 etc ad nauseum. The problem with 9/11 is it leads one toward questioning Holocaustianity and that's the one they can't afford to have come to wider attention.
DeleteKev,
ReplyDeleteThe holocaust is without a doubt the engine that's driving much of the Jewish control over society and of late freedom of speech within the USA, to the point of trying to rewrite the American constitution. Anyone who's done any research on Judaism, will find staggeringly disturbing comments, but not by the non jews, instead by the Jews themselves.
Henry Makwow and Finkelstein both believe that the holocaust is an industry, but they are both not prepared to accept that the so called official version is on a par with the government's false accounts on 9/11 and 7/7.
Why for example are they not prepared to discuss that holocaust denial is a crime punishable by prison sentences in some European states and Canada? Surely the oppression of free speech and to disect history is something seriously needs to be addressed. The truth unlike lies can only be suppressed as it cannot be proven false.
Kevin Myers, wrote 'There was no holocaust' in the Belfast Telegraph, meaning there was no massive burning of Jews
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/there-was-no-holocaust-kevin-myers-14214047.html
This is one fact that is continually left out.
Why are Finkelstein and Makow also happy to ignore the facts that the allied bombing raids on Germany destroyed supply lines, thus giving us the answer to why so many were starving in the concentration camps, including the German guards, relieved to see the allied troops.
Why are Finkelstein and Makow also happy to ignore the fact that what proof is there that all those emaciated bodies that we've seen in history books are actually Jews and more importantly from German concentration camps? For all we know, they could very well be the remains of Christians from the holodomor.
The persecution of the Jew (antisemitism), a direct result of semitism is on a par with the creation of racism legislation within the UK, there for a reason, in order to benefit the minority over the majority. Moreso, considering that the majority of Jews in this world are in fact non semitic, the calling of antisemitic is infact false, yet the non semitic ADL will hear nothing of the matter. Jewish means you are a semite to them. It's like calling a white Kenyan black because he's from Africa. And yet nothing from the ADL on the ethnic cleansing of semitic, sephardi Jewsin Israel by Ashkenazis.....
Jews did die in world war 2 but there was no program to systematically remove them from this planet, although Theodore Newman Kaufman said in a book in 1941 that the entire German race and nation be exterminated in his book - Germany Must Perish
http://ia700301.us.archive.org/25/items/GermanyMustPerish/KaufmanTheodore-GermanyMustPerish194135P..pdf
In the same year of his book’s publication, Kaufman gave an interview to The Canadian Jewish Chronicle in which he fervently articulated his desire not only for the annihilation of all German Gentiles, but also for Jewish World Government, stating:
“I believe that the Jews have a mission in life. They must see to it that the nations of the world get together in one vast confederation. ‘Union Now’ is the beginning of this. Slowly but surely the world will develop into paradise. We will have perpetual peace. And the Jews will do the most to bring about this confederation, because they have the most to gain.”
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=rPJOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=gkwDAAAAIBAJ&dq=theodore-kaufman%20germany%20must%20perish&pg=2325%2C5306430
Maybe you should mention Kaufman to Henry, Kevin?
regards
Harbinger
Thank you Harbinger. An excellent contribution.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Henry and I will be exchanging emails again however. As you say he, like Finkelstein, has a fixed position on this. He is not interested in discussing any evidence sensibly.
Neither did he respond to the suggestion that the decision to arrest Jewish women and children was taken in compliance with official Nazi policy (removal of Jews from the country) and not in order to carry out an extermination of Jews.
You're welcome Kev.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry too much about not exchanging emails with Henry, as I gave up a while back realising the bigger picture when I began to have my doubts on Henry. Anyone, in life, who is a seeker of truth MUST be prepared to ask questions that will very likely cause offence. Henry only does this with certain topics - feminism, homosexuality and 'parts' of the NWO.
It was interestingly the persecution of holocaust revisionists that got me interested in the whole debacle. So ironically, the Jewish persecution of gentiles, for questioning history regarding the Jews has backfired on them. The truth cannot be suppressed forever.
What makes me seriously wonder about Makow is if he likes to expose the Rothschild dynasty and has written detailed posts of what the Rothschild's have been part of, then why does he stop at the holocaust and believe the MSM's story, a MSM he's constantly ripping apart for NOT REPORTING THE TRUTH and leaving much of it out?
It therefore left me with two conclusions regarding Makow in that he's either a shill of the elites, there to be part of the dialectic, or fears for his own safety, were he to expose the lies told regarding the holocaust and the gas chambers. I suppose there is a third and that is he's ignorant to what the holocaust revisionists have proved, but that remains a long shot quite frankly.
Why does Makow also ignore facts that the six million figure was thrown about on numerous occasions in the past by rabbis and published in letters to various UK and US newspapers?
As you have stated that Makow chooses to ignore official Nazi policy on why Jews were arrested, I can only add to that, that there is clear, written evidence, from newspapers, pre WWII, that the Jews in fact launched the war against Germany. It was their decision to boycott German goods and starve the German people (an interesting tactic used somewhere in the Ukraine years earlier perhaps?) More so, the retaliation of the Nazis, to boycott Jewish businesses was a direct result and this was the reason that the stars of David were painted on the doors in Germany. It was to tell German people NOT to buy goods from Jews for blatantly obvious reasons and not Jewish hatred as we are told.
We are getting into very dangerous waters Kev with our pursuit of the truth and we will be persecuted for doing so, when internet hate/offensive speech laws come into play in the very near future. Everything that I've read points squarely to the fact that it is the Jewish manipulation of society that is strangling freedom and liberty from all. Worse still, the proof is not only written by non Jews, but by the Jews themselves.
regards
Harbinger
I deleated Henry's bookmark form my browser, he fails the litmus test. However, denial of the hoax is illegal in Canada.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he is still gainfully employed at a university and does not want to risk his good paying job and risk going to jail
This is one of those things that I can't say I have heard any so-called Jews speak out against. Even if we look through the posts here we call them Jews when they are not Jews, just converts to Talmudic Judaism in the Eighth century. The holocaust was in Dresden etc, London etc, Japan, Incendiary and nuclear. And why would Ashkenazi people want to exterminate the race of Ashkanazi people in a holocaust, but have much of the world convinced the Nazi's (those in seats of money and political influence; as many German people went along with some of it too as did many Brits, etc) and so-called Jews were/are, arch enemies, but really are the same race of people. If I was Ashkanazi I would speak out and say so, if I did not then I would be racist for not pointing it out to people(all people regardless of their race)
ReplyDeleteIt is particularly racist towards any other people who are not Ashkanazi, Therein lies one of the answers to this New world Order. No more conflicts if only they are left with a few million compliant slaves to continue to serve them.
Hi Kev,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for trying to wake people up to the holohoax , Anyone with half a brain only needs to spend 30 minutes research to relise the so-called jewish holocaust and the gas chambers is a total lie.
I am a parent and i am disgusted that the UK govt, through its education system, sends OUR school children to germany to visit the so-called "Auschwitz" gas chambers , what a discrace !
I got this strong feeling Henry (or someone writing on behalf of Henry) is NLPing... What do you think?
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-Whowatchesthewatchers
I agree with Timster's comment.
ReplyDeleteHenry refuses to post my comments and has done so since I criticised one of his guest writers. This individual was posing as a Christian, but in reality was just a Judaiser. I attempted to expose him as such, but Henry was adamant about defending him and refused to post my comment. I believe they call it censorship.
At the end of the day all it reveals is the fact that Henry has an agenda, but whose agenda that is the $64,000 question. Some say it's Rome and accuse him being a Jesuit.
Don't understand NLPing.
ReplyDelete'Jesuit'?!
.....or maybe an alien lizard.
"Don't understand NLPing" - Neuro Linguistic Programming.
ReplyDelete"Jesuit?!
.....or maybe an alien lizard."
Most likely all one and the same thing.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Did-Eve-Have-Sex-With-the-Devil-Or-Did-She-Just-Eat-Some-Fruit?---Part-1&id=1312971
http://ezinearticles.com/?Did-Eve-Have-Sex-With-the-Devil-Or-Did-She-Just-Eat-Some-Fruit?---Part-2---Cain-and-Abel&id=1345041
FYI:
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http://zaidpub.com/regarding-the-protocols-of-zion/authenticity-of-protocols-of-zion-substantiated-by-top-writerscholars/
Thanks lwt247,
ReplyDeleteMany sources referenced here. I will be looking at them.
KB
Hi Kevin,
ReplyDeleteThe following passage comes from the International Red Cross 1948 report in the conditions of German concentration camps.The IRC found no evidence of the mass extermination of jews. Nor in fact was there any mention of the mass murder of jews by any of the allied leaders in the aftermath of World War 11.
The insidious lies that we are been told are responsible for much that is happening in the world today including the persuction of Palestinians in their homeland. The fact that those who expose the holohoax are being put in prison indicates that the holocaust narrative does not and would not stand up to any serious scrutiny.
Link
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-97170.html
The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and "from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.
Red Cross Recipients Were Jews
The Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily. >From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps" (Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing and pharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald, Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg, Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen, Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and in Central and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians, Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews" (Vol. III, p. 83).
In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.
The ICRC had special praise for the liberal conditions which prevailed at Theresienstadt up to the time of their last visits there in April 1945. This camp, "where there were about 40,000 Jews deported from various countries was a relatively privileged ghetto" (Vol. III, p. 75). According to the Report, "'The Committee's delegates were able to visit the camp at Theresienstadt (Terezin) which was used exclusively for Jews and was governed by special conditions. From information gathered by the Committee, this camp had been started as an experiment by certain leaders of the Reich ... These men wished to give the Jews the means of setting up a communal life in a town under their own administration and possessing almost complete autonomy. . . two delegates were able to visit the camp on April 6th, 1945. They confirmed the favourable impression gained on the first visit" (Vol. I, p . 642).
Tony
Auschwitz was/is in Poland
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