Saturday, 13 August 2011

Collective Punishment of 'Rioters' Families and the Geneva Convention

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An interesting exchange on Facebook is reproduced below regarding some Councils' determination to evict persons convicted of involvement in the recent UK riots. Wandsworth Council want to evict an entire family whose son was found guilty of involvement in the Clapham Junction looting.

One wonders what long-term good such a local authority imagines will come from this. Will they make an underclass intimidated into passivity and obedience, however grudging?

Is satisfying the understandable cries for punitive action from shopkeepers and a rattled middle class wise if this action strays into the realms of collective punishment, a point Jim Murphy fairly raises below?

For myself, even if a convicted person is the only one evicted, this strategy makes no sense. Deprive the underclass of even a place to live? I can think of no better way of creating genuinely terrifying psychopaths.

Anyone paying attention to the crimes of the elite (and the cover-up of these crimes by parliament and the media) knows very well that the sickness at the bottom of society is a manifestation of a much greater sickness at the top.

Bearing in mind the unwillingness of our entire parliament, even the old icons of the left like Diane Abbott, who rose to prominence on the back of the Hackney riots, to see itself as part of (never mind the source of) the problem, might we not expect with absolute certainty that a similar sickness will manifest itself later....more than likely on a much larger scale. The middle classes, whose children cannot afford to get a mortgage on a place to live and who are being inducted into massive debt before they even start their working lives will become heavily involved.

When this time comes, and it will, more than sports and mobile phone shops will have cause to worry.

Here is the Facebook extract referred to:

Jim Murphy

Collective punishment is classified as a war crime under Geneva Convention. Wandsworth Council is trending on Twitter because they have served an eviction notice on the family of a young guy who was involved in the riots (1st offence). Politicians are idiots. When they were sitting around discussing their facist tactics, the people were out on the streets cleaning up after the riots. Politicians serve Bankers not citizens and we no longer need them. #DirectDemocracy now
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Philip S******


The Geneva Conventions though only apply in times of war, including civil war. What happened at the weekend was neither despite some of the participants believing so apparently. Tenancy agreements however, were almost certainly broken.

Jim Murphy

It is less about the applicability of the legislation and more about the moral imperative. The ban on collective punishment in the Geneva Convention is designed to combat the once widely accepted concept of reprisal or revenge to look at it in its proper context. An eye for an eye is not part of the Christian tradition which has been the bedrock of our laws and culture for centuries. In short, this is anti-Christian and should be recognised as such.


Watch this black man point the finger and put his case very well during Boris Johnson's visit to Clapham Junction:




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17 comments:

  1. This is going to create a new IRA! Just keep screwing your SUBJECTS!

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  2. Once they have nothing left to lose, they won't just be throwing bricks and stealing bicycles, will they?

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  3. And the last ten years was in anticipation

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  4. I was reading about the family of Charlotte Ives. The parents were watching TV coverage of the riots and saw their daughter throw a brick at a police car, so they turned her in.

    Would they have done so if they had known it would lead to their being evicted?

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  5. I believe that in most American cities, section 8 housing complexes require the expulsion of entire family for drug and gang violations, so are we not also in violation of the Geneva conventions?

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  6. Am getting some very strong anti-Jewish commentss. There's something in the Jewish connection (or even domination) of the finance horrors that have done so much to create this situation....but....

    .......enough already......

    Can we keep this discussion free of this racial stuff please.

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  7. Article 8 COUNCIL OF EUROPE
    The European Convention on Human Rights

    http://www.hri.org/docs/ECHR50.html

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  8. Sheep... look here:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/08/11/amazon-uks-soaring-baseball-bat-sales/

    Smarter people:
    ... you already know.

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  9. Kev Boyle,

    "Am getting some very strong anti-Jewish comments.....Can we keep this discussion free of this racial stuff please."

    I can't see any racial stuff in the comments. If you're not printing them Kevin, then I'm afraid to tell you that you'll have no moral highground when it comes to defending liberty, which is pretty much what you do on this blog. It's hypocrisy. Freedom of speech, regardless whether you agree with it is liberty. As soon as we oppress people's freedom to speak freely (censorship as you are doing) we become no different than those who are controlling us.

    And why the video of the black man? I believe it's another Charlie "I can't get myself on YouTube enough" Veitch is it not?
    This guy's angry, when so is everyone. He's brought race into this discussion in the video. He's mentioned 'reminds me of slavery' when what does he know of it? He's 46 for crying out loud! The slave trade had already been long buried!
    What I see is an angry man. An angry socialist to be precise. An angry Jamaican origin black man, who doesn't realise that although born in the UK, it won't make him English. Ironically it won't make him British, for being British is the collective indigenous peoples of Britain - not non indigenous who are born here or attain citizenship.

    The whole concept of the NWO WAS MASSIVE MIGRATION to destroy cultural identity. The very fact that this man is in the UK and sees himself as a black "indigenous", proves the success of the demolition of the indigenous standing within this country by the very agenda of the powers that be.
    I am no supporter of the BNP, EDL or any white supremacist group but I'm simply putting two and two together and not liking what I'm seeing Kevin.

    Simply put, it means that everyone in the UK is branded as a racist because they don't wish to see their indigenous turn into a minority which is overwhelmingly on the cards.

    The NWO will win because we're defending their policy of mass immigration. How many of those who have come into the UK over the last 13 years will have children here? Why should they be treated any different to those who arrived on the Windrush? It's very much a case of get in quick, because once they're born here no one can complain for reasons just mentioned. And the flood gates will remain open, because this is the plan of the RIIA, Fabians, Club of Rome, Bilderbergers, Tavistock etc etc.
    Once the Tower of Babel is rebuilt and all languages lost, there will be two different peoples and two races - the elites and everyone else.
    They have purposefully flooded the UK with Africans and Asians BECAUSE UNLIKE THE ENGLISH THEY WILL COMPLAIN AND RIOT!!

    This is so obvious and yet stating it will probably not allow this reply to be published (again censorship) not forgetting make you believe that I hate non indigenous. I don't, but I see the simply outcome of continued migration, which simply is a future indigenous minority, who have no homeland, unlike the non indigenous piling in. This is creating the anger in most inner cities around the UK and our elites know this, hence why it's happening.

    Mark

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  10. Evict? Clean the gene pool by killing them all. Stop sugarcoating the shit, stop being paranoid. Those are scums. Yesterday they set fire on buildings, tomorrow they'll beat up ur children. If u wanna kiss their asses, then kiss them.

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  11. What a nice person you are, Anonymous 06:10

    Mark,

    I agree with what you say about Jewish influence. I have put up many posts about it. However, it does no good to be obsessed with this issue.
    It's The Jews! It's the Jews!

    WE are all involved in this and riots like this are a manifestation of our collective mindset and the selfish compromises most of us make. We could all be Brian Haws but we're not.

    The oligarchy with the power who are most responsible for this situation, the politicians and media who serve them and not us....sure....these are the enemy but we need to reflect within too and endlessly shouting about 'The Jews' becomes tiresome and sometimes, in my opinion, a distraction.

    Apart from that, to be honest it presents myself as an anti-Semitic obsessive, which I am not......although there are some Jews out there who would disagree.

    I am currently unemployed and looking for work. At my age it is very hard to get. However, I'm advertised on a tutor site. I got a phone call offering me an interview for a very good job in a Jewish private school a few weeks ago, indicating that I would likely get the job. This was a shocking thing to me because private schools get dozens of applications for every advertised post, this is NEVER the way a teacher gets appointed and....oh....I'm not Jewish. The motive behind this very weird approach was, I believe, sinister. After very short reflection I cancelled the interview.

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  12. Sorry but I cant see any anti jewish comments here. I the complainer one of the many bots who trawl the net decrying "ant-semite" at every op? Perhaps he replied to the wrong topic. This isnt a jewish subject - its theft and thuggishness from the top down. The suited bankers and politicians do far worse and get off with a slap on the wrist! No more!!

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  13. Kev,

    "What a nice person you are, Anonymous 06:10"

    How can you tell from one reply the psyche of a human being? I happen to be a good person, one that tells the truth about life thanks to a great deal of reading and insight into what's really going on.
    And then you address the letter to 'Mark' (myself) about a topic that I haven't really discussed (Jewish influence)? Is there another Mark you're thinking about?

    However, I will reply to your reply seeing as it's addressed to the only human who's signed their reply with Mark.

    I am sad to see you're unemployed and it must be hard at your age. I'm feeling the same as I too am unemployed at 40 and the work situation is dry up in Scotland. I think your unemployment status has very much to do with what many people will see as an anti semitic website. My criticising of non indigenous people living in the UK is on a par with your criticism of Judaism and Zionism. I will be looked upon as a racist, because I tell the truth about immigration and non white growth in the UK and you an anti semite because you open the minds of people with Jewish influence in the UK, especially on banking, education, politics and the MSM.

    I think the Jews are playing a very big part within the NWO. They have a lot of power. There's no doubt about that. They practically own the MSM and the banking system, not forgetting Zionism owns government in the west also, so it's safe to say that our elites are most certainly not Christian. All one has to do is the groundwork.
    You've been branded as an anti semite and it wouldn't surprise me if you've been blacklisted from teaching. I said to you in the past, when you were working that it was very dangerous to not be anonymous if you're a teacher, touching on the subjects that you do.

    And finally, you may disagree with me on the topic of non white/multiculturalism within the UK, but like it or not, this was the plan of the powers that be. The riots started in London because of the police shooting of Duggan, a mixed race man, not a black or a white man. This is important. They also went on the riot because many have the 'I don't give a sh*t' attitude and rightly so. They see no future. They know that the best they're going to get work wise is probably burger flipping, if they can that is. They have no hope. They are reading between the lines and seeing that corporate crime, banking and political crime continues to grow, along with the cost of living. They see what the reality is about life.
    Non whites, as I said have purposefully been brought in for three specific reasons - racial and cultural genocide, deliberate lowering of the minimum wage and increase in population to make jobs scarce and they will riot unlike the indigenous peoples.

    This is a game Kevin. A game that the elites know they've already won. The very fact that you disagree with what I've written is testament to the current thought of society. Pre 60's, my reply to you would have been deemed perfectly natural, yet now, thanks to cultural Marxism, it's viewed as hate, when it most certainly is not. Unlike the MSM, I write the truth on reality and many people CAN'T handle the truth. Need I remind you of the Jewish School of Frankfurt? They were the ones behind the implementation of mass migration, racial and hate speech laws.

    Regards

    Mark

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  14. the person who said the slave trade is long dead is way off the mark slavery is more abundant today than during the 18th and 19th century do your research

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  15. It was the word 'scum' I don't like. Mass immigration is indeed a wicked attack on indigenous whites, a 'divide and rule' policy that demonstrates the elites contempt for the rest of us.
    I feel sorry for people stuck permanently at the bottom of any social system. As George Carlin said, "The table is tilted, the game is rigged."
    I've taught a lot of these kids. Some are hard to like but they look at unemployed older siblings, they look at where they are stuck and know they'll stay. There is no life and little hope for so many of them. Drugs and crime beckon. They have to be very strong to turn away from all that and accept (usually) a minimum wage job.

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  16. Kev,

    It seems you mixed up my anonymous with that at 09:42. I always sign my replies. Of course, these children are not scum. I agree with you. They do look to unemployed older siblings and wonder where they will be, very probably wanting families but wondering how they'll look after them.

    I mention migration because of the damning nature of it. Not only does it remove peoples from their own lands, but causes conflicts when they arrive on new shores. As Alan Watt stated in the last couple of broadcasts (I'm sure you've heard of him) is that Britain purposefully advertised in far away lands of coming to the UK and living off the benefits system. Where in the hell was the MSM's reporting of this? Where was the government's admittance?
    I find the whole thing deplorable.
    As I said in a previous reply (not here), young women have a choice of standing on their feet for £40 a day or £150 an hour for lying on their back. The immoral society beckons, no different to the German women, living in desperation in the Weimar republic after WW1, doing degrading sex acts on stage. It still happens to this day.

    I lived in London and the gang situation was terrible. I knew of young lads who would be beaten up regularly for not joining, offered gifts and if they still refused, told their mum's and sisters would be gang raped. This is the result of much and sadly it is also the result of African migration. This is clash of cultures and the elites knew what the outcome would be. Once they've demolished the white North, they'll smash the black south, currently destroying the Asian (Islamic lands) people in the east. And yet very few people have a clue as to what's going on.

    Good luck with finding a job. It's tough and is only going to get tougher.

    regards

    Mark

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  17. I am a political exile from the UK and now live in S.E. Asia because as a visitor I am more free than I have been in the UK since 9/11. Reality is Reality and we need to stop attacking each other on race issues. The enemy are a faceless bunch of sociopaths who enjoy our infighting while they gaze down at us from their ivory towers. The main problem with the riots in Britain is that there is no focus point for the disenfranchised to rally around therefore only mindless violence has occurred. The upshot to these riots is that the Powers that rule Britain will instigate more fascist solutions and many of the people will believe that it is a good thing. Wake up people! The Bank controlled Government has indebted every last one of you to the system and is making your lives unbearable so why scream at the small fry rioters while you do nothing to halt the real criminals who are screwing you and your children? Yours Tony

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