Wednesday, 28 July 2010

The Clock Is Ticking (on the western money-as-debt system)

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Moeen Yaseen is a sharp and constructively forward-thinking guy. I met him at early 9/11 truth meetings. He has been doing great work with Global Vision 2000 since he founded it.

Below is a short but absolutely fascinating talk given at a recent Global Vision conference by Muhammad Rafeeq, a banking consultant, who addresses the moral as well as political consequences of our money-creation system.

He tells of the Turkish government's efforts to introduce money into the Turkish economy by spending rather than debt i.e. creating the money themselves rather than borrowing it (before introducing it into the economy) and the consequence of this attempted initiative.......the promise of a military coup from a majority delegation of generals of the Turkish army.

Britain created over 80 of the world's central banks and the exchange rates between these currencies are decided in London.

This system gifts monstrous power to London.

Here, within these mechanisms, operates the heart and mind of the beast.

The City of London/Wall Street/European Central Banks dominate all, so it should come as no surprise that this is the coalition that our young people are sent to fight and die for.

It is fascinating and a bit scary to understand the threat that may be about to emerge as a challenge to the western money-lending monster (this issue arises towards the end of the talk).

Is quelling and neutralising this threat what all the lying, psychopathic, lunatic aggression (we see from the US/UK/Israel war machine) is all about?

......because the bottom line is obvious. In our venal, dumbed-down, unspiritual, reckless world, whoever controls the money controls everything else (or, at least, think they do).

However, one look at the Government Debt/Revenue ratio for ourselves (about the same as Greece's, 8:1) and the USA (about 16:1) and the whole house of cards starts to look extremely unstable.

J.P. Morgan's Derivatives/Capital ratio runs at a staggering 2000:1

Is this system ****ed or isn't it? Webster Tarpley has been saying for years that our banking system is now unfixable ($1.5 Quadrillion of toxic derivatives in the system) unless everybody agrees that these derivatives be "wiped out".

Obviously there are people in Wall Street and the City of London who disagree. They prevented any regulations being introduced that would interfere with their use of derivatives. They cannot allow mountains of fictitious assets to just disappear. They also believe they can use derivatives to attack other economies and keep the heat away from themselves....

......but on July 12, Niall Ferguson, an historian (and friend) of empire, warned that the American empire could collapse suddenly from weakness brought on by its massive debts and that such a collapse could be closer than we think.

Before they can kick off a war, please God.

End floating exchange rates, establish a global minimum wage as the basis of foreign exchange......fraudulent government statistics exposed.....the utter shiftiness and obsessive secrecy associated with the Bank of England........and more besides......

......much food for thought here:


Perspectives of Moral Political Economy - Muhammad Rafeeq - Global Vision 2000

PART ONE



PART TWO


PART THREE

22 comments:

  1. http://dublinmick.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/oil-continues-to-pour-on-land-and-sea/?preview=true&preview_id=557&preview_nonce=d3a16e5f74

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  2. Interesting. You're fast with the news Mick.
    KB

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  3. I watched this yesterday and it certainly does provide food for thought. However on checking the website 'Counterfire' I came across what appears to be a decidedly far left wing site with numerous articles on Marxism, Leninism and 'how the left can transform society'.

    I then had a dig around on the 'Global2000' site and found it is working towards a 'universal paradigm shift' as well as 'facilitating the evolution of global human consciousness by focussing on an Universal transcendentalist Islamic vision'.

    Personally neither of the above appeals in the slightest.

    It seems evident that the international banking system is due to collapse. What appears to be happening is that it's being kept afloat until the opportune moment. We've seen before how 'problem, reaction, solution' works. Does anyone doubt that they'll have the 'solution' ready and waiting? Also note that a concerted effort has been made to weaken both America and Europe, including and especially Britain. The collapse of our financial services sector will most likely be the (planned) final nail in the coffin.

    GloabaI2000 may well operate with the best of intentions but I suggest we be very wary of any 'solutions' that are proposed. From the same conference Duad Pidcock suggested returning the issuance of currency to the 'Queen and the Crown where it belongs". It's my considered view that the source of much of our woes is the 'Queen and the Crown'. There was also a contribution from the leader of the Libertarian party who suggested a currency backed by gold. The link below gives a short introduction as to why that is not a good idea.

    http://www.henrymakow.com/taking_the_glitter_out_of_gold.html

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  4. Mmm,

    Thanks Harry. You're certainly right about TPTB having a 'solution' (or a few alternatives) ready and waiting. This is bound to be the case.

    Any new system that these people, one way or another, continue to control is unacceptable.

    If the above system was set up with states creating all their own money, no usury, and by agreement in order to trade with other countries have to pay every citizen a minimum wage then that would sound like a pretty good start.....

    ....but, you are right. The people who control international finance are fiendishly clever and it is probably fair to say that we will never get the beginnings of a fair and acceptable system until after the full range of their historic criminality is exposed to the world at large and all the people actively involved are formally driven from the stage....preferably into prison.

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  5. Andrew Edmans.

    In the video Muhammad Rafeeq says, this talk is about “The rise and fall of civilization” and it seems this has gone out to many groups and couterfire.org have put it out.

    It seems that even when individual genuine people of faith say things they are attacked for being Muslim, Christian ect.

    'Queen and the Crown'. ? Just the same as other groups where they say “restore the Monarch to her Constitutional role”

    I just wondered Harry, why you never mention Faith?

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  6. Sabotage im Michigan? Didn't I read a few days ago about their using a barter system to bypass the dollar? Revenge?

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  7. Andrew Edmans.

    I would if I may like to say that the idea of using Gold and Silver was that they are more finite substances and thus if used as the means of exchange by weight and volume, just the actual metal itself by weight and volume, with a fixed value (Value as in means of fair exchange) there would be enough for all trade in the peoples hands not in banks.


    Because of this it could not be issued out as readily as paper with any amount of numbers on it or numbers on a computer screen and its perceived value (money from thin air) Inflation, debt, less spending power for the public and more for the bankters schemes of rowing the economy issuing credit to whom they choose and/or withholding from who are not “chosen ones”

    But as we all know the Banksters have all the gold and is not the only way.

    It’s said that all money systems can be gamed, but that’s why God gave us in His Laws and one of those is the “year of release” which stops any gaming of economics in its tracks if we abide by it.

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  8. Hi Andrew,
    The videos linked to above were uploaded on to the YouTube channel of 'Fourmanfilms' which appears to be the vehicle of a Paul Hanes. Many of the videos on the 'Counterfire' website were produced by 'Fourmanfilms'. There's only one other upload of the videos to be found on YouTube and there's a comment there indicating that they had been originally uploaded by 'Fourmanfilms'. They also have the 'Counterfire' stamp on them.

    From this it seems safe to say that the producer of the films was most likely 'Fourmanfilms' and that the filming was done on behalf of 'Counterfire'. This would lead to the assumption that 'Global2000' is happy to be associated with 'Counterfire'.

    You appear to have twisted my comment about Islam into being one that attacks 'people of faith'. I'm certainly not going to deny that I grave misgivings about Islam. Explaining why would take far too long but apart from anything else I'm convinced that it is true that Islam is the only religion that does not follow the 'Golden Rule.

    From your comment you seem to be saying that it doesn't matter what the 'faith' is as long as you have it.

    The sovereign right to create money should reside with the government, with that government being the true representation of the people.

    The Queen is not the Crown but she does represent it. So then, who or what is the Crown?

    As for restoring the Monarch to 'her Constitutional role' I'm afraid she sealed her fate when she signed all of the EU treaties. I doubt she would survive a detailed examination into the role the Royal Family has played in the broader agenda to create a New World Order.

    Andrew if I 'never mention faith' it's because it's not relevant to the specific points I'm attempting to make.

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  9. Andrew EDmans.

    "who or what is the Crown?"

    Having faith in God (A good higher power) Like Christ did by example.

    “Do unto others as you would have done unto you”

    Which is only part of the Law.

    “As regards the expression that is mentioned in the question, its meaning is correct because it means justice and equity when dealing with people. There is evidence in the Quran about this, like the verses which order to be just, such as the saying of Allaah (which means)”

    Found on the web Harry?


    And

    A further example.
    Koran
    4:5. To those weak of understanding make not over your property, which God hath made a means of support for you, but feed and clothe them therewith, and speak to them words of kindness and justice.

    And yes we all know that organised religion is bad.

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  10. Andew Edmans.

    9:23. O ye who believe! Take not for protectors your dads and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.
    9:24. Say: If it be that your dads, your sons, your brothers, your mates, or your kindred; the wealth that ye have gained; the commerce in which ye fear a decline: or the dwellings in which ye delight - are dearer to you than "I AM", or His Messenger, or the striving in His Cause;- then wait until "I AM" brings about His Decision: and "I AM" guides not the rebellious.

    What does it say on the link you provided for the Golden Rule?

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  11. THINGS THAT ARE BAD!!
    THE FEDERAL RESEVER
    THE UNITED NATIONS
    THE NEW WORLD ORDER
    THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
    CONGRESSMEN
    SENATORS
    THESE GROUPES AND LEADERS SHOULD BE INPRISONED
    FOR TREASON. GOD BLESS AND KEEP AMERICA SAFE.

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  12. Hi Kev,

    We seems to have a consensus on what the problem is and that consensus grows every day however I have heard literally hundreds of proposed solutions, most requiring some level of organised counter measure. We know for a fact that any level of organised resistance will fail as the enemy is an expert at countering threats to the status quo.

    The answer is not collective action but individuals taking responsibility for their own lives. We need to put own own houses in order before we start seeking others to follow suit. The single organising principle of the live of Jesus was I feel, lead by example no matter what the odds and live the good life despite the threat of persecution.

    By doing so, the persecutors expose themselves for everyone to see.

    We are lucky to live in these times I suppose as the choice between good and evil becomes ever clearer and the choice becomes easier to make.

    The cretins who seek temporal power only hold their power through the sale of fear promoted through conditioning via the media/TV.

    The first step towards freedom is to unplug yourself from the programming = freedom to think.

    Once one is able to think, one must communicate = restoring humanity.

    With humanity comes the loss of ego and self, when the views and feeling of others are more important than your own.

    The day this happens is that day the world changes and it all starts on your own doorstep all by yourself because you have changed your part of the world and everyone you meet will be effected in some way because of the choices you have made.

    All well and good you might say but what about the practicalities. Okay, lets start with small steps. We know they want to get rid of cash so.....

    Use Cash, cancel Direct Debits, stop using cards for payment.

    Barter where it is feasible and practical to do so.

    Do not borrow money.

    Do not use interest bearing accounts.

    Stop buying shares and share related investment products.

    Stop buying Life Assurance (it doesn't do what its says, does it?)

    You've probably got the idea by now......and in case you are wondering, no I do not have mortgages, overdrafts, credit cards, debit cards, pension, any kind of insurance (scam) or ISA's etc. I gave it all up in 2002 and its not been easy but we are free of a lot of worries other folks have.

    Give it a go and make suggestions as I certainly do not have all the answers!

    Our day will come!

    Jim

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  13. First, we have to analyse and understand "the system".

    Then, we become more and more disillusioned (or realistic).

    But the really hard decision is: what do we do, knowing what we are up against???

    Do we need to compromise how we make a living?

    Is it worth raising awareness about the ills of our global system???

    One thing is for sure: there is a different choice whether we think about us as individuals surviving, or whether we think about us changing the system. That can only happen "together", not on our own.

    Sabine
    Organiser, Forum for Stable Currencies
    http://forumforstablecurrencies.info

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  14. Thanks Sabine,
    Good site you have there.
    KB

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  15. Hi Sabine,

    I could not disagree more with your statement, 'That can only happen "together", not on our own' as any serious student of history, especially modern history will know that 'divide and conquer' works splendidly when people come 'together'.

    Individuals must change, they must make the personal choice between good and evil. Once the choice is made, the individual makes room for the divine in ones heart and soul and fear fades.

    When fear is dead, the evil fear.

    Jim

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  16. The culmination of the Grand Plan for Global government is now upon us, after years of attacks on marriage and the family unit, export of industry to slave economies,mass feminisation of the workforce,a genuine holocaust of six million healthy British babies since the Abortion Act of 1967,ongoing mass immigration, cheating MP`s whose only loyalty is to one warlike, nuclear armed expansionist Middle East country. Our best hope is that the Thames barrier fails and the whole rotten system
    disappears like Sodom and Gomorrah.

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  17. Take a leaf out of the book of the world`s second poorest country, who have defied the combined might of all the forces of Evil,using the latest technology.They are the Vanguard of Islam who will liberate the seige of the third Mosque.Tauba 100.

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  18. Andrew Edmans.

    David Pidcock,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNAZlKvJk_s

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    Usury is one of those concepts hard to grasp it seems. I’ll give it a go and keep it short and humble.

    Diligent inflation was/is allowed as that gives provision for those who want-ed to work harder so they could earn more and could enjoy the rewards of their labour; but after seven years all monetary and/or goods debt (principle no interest is/was ever needed) was/is to be cancelled (no destroying of goods to fix prices) So no one could become Filthy rich (and abuse others) and no-one could become poor. [There has to be incentive otherwise, like the communist system, everything grinds to a halt and collapses.]

    Also as to meet the agriculture policy which includes the laying the land “fallow” (all worked out to the seasons and what nature, animal, vegetation etc requires) a longer period was set for that purpose where the land was shared out fairly to “All Families” but also to provide provision for people not engaged in agriculture they could sell some of their share to people who were engaged in agriculture. Should circumstances compel, it was permitted to sell the land, but the price should be adjusted according to the number of years to the Jubilee. The price was not for the land itself, but for its produce. In the fiftieth, the Year of Jubilee, every family must return to its inheritance.

    A major correction of the economic and agricultural policy, with no need for complex mathematics really for the economics were/are never needed. Not needed now? But 56 counting post were used to keep track of the years and seasons, accurate to around 4 minutes and 17 seconds over a 50 year period for initiates and some further more complex maths in observing the equinox rise and sets for precise reckoning.

    Where usury (not any old amount, but all worked out) was allowed was for example, where say the Egyptians were practising slavery and oppression and rather than having to defend against attack and to try to appease them, first it was permitted to use usury to purchase their slaves but only to graft them in to a just system where they would not then be slaves and oppressed. “To the end their be no poor among you” demonstrating to people who then would want that system for themselves which they then could join if they would observe and follow all the Just Laws.

    This has caused so much suffering to this day and even many years before Egypt.

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  19. Andrew Edmans.

    David Pidcock,from the same video presentation.

    David Pidcock’s View on the State of Islamic Money, Banking, and Finance.

    THE MONEY MASTERS video

    http://beyondmoney.net/2008/01/21/david-pidcocks-view-on-the-state-of-islamic-money-banking-and-finance/

    "Pakistan – which was “allegedly” established as an Islamic State has never implemented a Sharia Friendly monetary system in the past 60 years. The Pakistani Economist / Senator Professor Kursheed Ahmed admitted as much in a seminar at the Islamic Foundation at Markfield, entitled THE DEATH OF RIBA/INTEREST : “we have all been cowards in this regard”

    In a live show on ARY TV, Ken Palmerton, ask(ed) General Quraishi – a spokesman for the Musharaf/Busharaf government that now that the Sharia Court of Pakistan had issued its Fatwa condemning Interest – in that the banking system of Pakistan must become more “user” than “usurer friendly” – he snorted : “We are not a backward country!”.

    Ken and I had already travelled (sic) to Pakistan to give evidence to Justice Taqi Usmani – which included a screening of THE MONEY MASTERS video –which convinced him that a just, workable monetary system could be established in the 20/21st century in any sovereign state regardless of it’s size – be it Large or Small."

    http://z6.invisionfree.com/Bill_Still_Reforum/index.php?showtopic=379&st=15

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  20. Usury is actually quite easy to grasp. It is idle money gaining interest to create even more idle money.The Rothschilds,instigators of the present financial swindle,have hoarded at least 25 $trillion in gold, in secret vaults around the world. Adolf Hitler introduced a barter system in 1933,to defeat the Jewish attack on the Reichmark.

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  21. REVOLUTION HARRY SHOULD CHECK HIS FACTS ABOUT THE QUEEN'S RIGHTS - WHICH SHE HOLDS IN OUR NAME
    http://www.prosperityuk.com/prosperity/articles/kerby.html

    AND ALL NOTE THAT THE QURAN DOES NOT APPROVE OF ANYONE INITIATING CONFLICT - CERTAINLY NOT MUSLIMS -"FIGHT AGAINST THOSE WHO FIGHT AGAINST YOU..." DO NOT INITIATE CONFLICT - ETC.
    THEY ARE, HOWEVER, ALLOWED TO RETALIATE.
    QURAN 002.190 YUSUF ALI: Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
    PICKTHAL: Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
    SHAKIR: And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.

    002.191
    YUSUF ALI: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
    PICKTHAL: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
    SHAKIR: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

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  22. Andrew Edmans.

    "002.191"? "Sacred Mosque"?

    Then that is the Hadith not the Koran.

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